Episode 30: Toby Lloyd
On Biblical Horror and being a Jewish Atheist
Toby Lloyd’s Five Books:
The Jewish Joke by Devorah Baum
In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust
The Truce by Primo Levi
The Furrows by Namwali Serpell
Fervor by Toby Lloyd
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Toby Lloyd discusses Fervor, his haunting debut novel inspired by a rereading of the Bible. Struck by the richness, ambiguity, and moments of horror in Genesis and Exodus, Toby explores how these ancient stories can speak to modern readers. We talk about his aim to write for a broad audience, the place of British Jews in the heart of English literature, and why Marcel Proust’s portrayal of Jewish identity feels as urgent today as it did a century ago.
In Fervor, Hannah and Eric Rosenthal are devout Jews living in North London with their three children and Eric’s father Yosef, a Holocaust survivor. As Hannah prepares to publish an account of Yosef's years in war-torn Europe—unearthing a terrible secret from his time in the camps—Elsie, her perfect daughter, starts to come undone. And then, in the wake of Yosef’s death, she disappears. When she returns, just as mysteriously as she left, she is altered in disturbing ways.
Toby Lloyd studied English at Oxford University before moving to America to pursue an MFA in creative writing at NYU. He has published short stories and essays in Carve Magazine and the Los Angeles Review of Books and was longlisted for the 2021 V. S. Pritchett Short Story Prize. He lives in London.
Other Media Mentioned:
- Rosemary’s Baby by Ira Levin
- The Witch (film)
- The Exorcist (film)
- Collected Poems by Phillip Larkin
- My Struggle by Karl Ove Knausgaard
- Jews Don’t Count by David Baddiel
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